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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 20, 2011 10:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: to the GD 1969 lovers

I recently DL'd from bt.etree the 2/28 and 3/2/69 show. I'm going to give one of them to an old friend tomorrow,he's a gifted bass man, but with little early GD exposure. Back in the early 70's, he played bass in a Bay Area Band called
Loveship 2 - They are both grate shows via Cliffs 100 rating, but I can't make up my mind. Should I just flip a coin? haha.

Both are clean sounding, tho not from the Fillmore West Box Set. It's the best Phil bass one I'm lookin for. Any suggestions?

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Oct 20, 2011 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

If you think your friend might like a very good Lovelight, that's a huge boost for 2/28. It's not for everyone though. The Crypt > TOO > Crypt > Death Don't from 3/02 will blow your friend away, a best ever type sequence. But the TOO from 02/28 might be a top 5 ever as well. A lot of the other stuff is similar too, but for some reason I remember the 3/02 Dew to be stronger.

Honestly, I can't separate any of the shows. There are times when I think 2/27, possibly the least regarded of the run, is the best. Seems to change every month.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Oct 20, 2011 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

I think 2-28-69 is one of the best shows of all time. By contrast, I think 3-2-69 is easily the least successful show of the run.

To my ear, they're constantly hunting for the groove and never quite finding it. The DS>SS>E>LL medley to start is a series of missed opportunities. The TOO is IMO heinous in comparison to any of the other three nights of the run. The DDHNM is the one real highlight for me. Yes, there's a long Alligator > Caution, but I think the jamming is actually more interesting and productive in the shorter version from 2-28.

I know the show has its fans, but I have to disagree with them. Give your friend 2-28 I say.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 20, 2011 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

give the 3/2 DS another listen. Its anything but missed opportunities. I might agree with you on the rest of it though.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Oct 20, 2011 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

Will do--have been meaning to.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Oct 21, 2011 5:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

Lou,

It's the Crypt reprise and sweet flow into Death Don't that makes that 3/02 suite so special. The TOO is indeed a bit ragged.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 20, 2011 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

tough to say. If I recall correctly, phil sticks out more in the 3/2 DS vs. the 2/27 DS, they are quite different versions. Other than that, IDK YO

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 20, 2011 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

That's kind of like the choice between lobster and cracked crab for lunch at the end of the cinematic classic Trading Places. I say go with the same solution and give him both.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 20, 2011 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

haha! I'll flip a coin, the other one is for a deadhead friend who's happy with lobster and crab. I can't burn anymore, that is, CD's until monday. Here goes! "We want Phil! we want Phil!" -28, tails 03 (Flip)= tails.

Edit: when i first typed this there was only 1 reply after 35min (i took a run) now it's the missing friend formation. 3/2 stands.

this is how i contribute, questions but few answers, 3/2 seem a bit better, but i heard it last. after warm ups, runz are a blur. grate way to exercise.i'm rastarunner at a jog site. this whole edit took 20min haha. click

This post was modified by rastamon on 2011-10-20 18:57:00

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 20, 2011 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

I agree with Larry. Both would be best, but if you have to pick one you won't go wrong with either. (I think that makes sense!)

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 20, 2011 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

indeed a terribly hard choice! i'd probably lean towards the 2/28, but i've loving the hell out of 3/2 lately, so i really have no idea!!!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

Personally, I'd go for 2/28. One of the best shows of the year, if not of all time.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 20, 2011 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

from a phil standpoint, i have to go with 2/28. listen to the whole cryptical suite and the st. stephen > eleven. that should be enough to convince you, however phil is spot-on the entire show. this is hands down my favorite eleven of all-time. also, my favorite '60s dew. the 15 min jam before caution is just sublime as well.

i always go back and forth between which show i like better overall, but i do give a very slight edge to 2/28. you can't go wrong either way though. perhaps you'll like 3/2 slightly better.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

Have you heard 1968-10-12 or Two from the vault? I find both of those versions to be a notch above the elevens from 2/28-3/2. Maybe its just me...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

i've heard all 3 versions many many times. they are all played so extraordinarily well, but 02/28 is the one that impresses bobby deniro the most. i find 10/12 to be slightly better than the version from two from the vault.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 20, 2011 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

right on. Maybe I need to allocate some time to re-listen to them. I've been very slowly discovering the gems within that legendary box set for the past year and a half.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 20, 2011 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

wisc, do you have copies of all the shows? i'd be willing to help fill out your fillmore west '69 collection if it's lacking in anyway. this is music that MUST be heard by every deadhead. let me know if you're interested.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 20, 2011 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

I've got it all. Thanks for the offer tho!

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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

I have,
2/22
2/27
2/28
3/1
3/2
3/28
3/30
4/5
4/20 (yummy)
4/22
4/23
5/3/
5/30
7/7
9/7
10/25
10/29
11/2
11/8
12/11
12/12
12/30
12/31 more than half are one CD, harvested for the
Darkstar set. my bad!
edid-edit, ooops, forgot 4/21
This post was modified by rastamon on 2011-10-20 19:15:52

This post was modified by rastamon on 2011-10-20 19:17:14

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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

when i started collecting shows, it was from the internet and a few reel to reel FM shows a deadhead friend had. I was a second set and/or Darkstar nut - All era's - I'm better now :)

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

lol, i have over 60 shows from '69, by far the most from any year in my collection. i got all my downloading in when the sbds were all available many moons ago. i only have 1 show from '93 by comparison.

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Poster: utopian Date: Oct 20, 2011 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: to the GD 1969 lovers

both